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Giocando (con la mente) s’impara | Fabio Tognetti | TEDxPadova

Giocando (con la mente) s’impara | Fabio Tognetti | TEDxPadova


Translator: Michele Gianella
Reviewer: Federico MINELLE Do you remember that
amazing journey you went on? The one you always talk anybody about, the one that makes you smile and thrill
whenever you talk about it. And every time you think about it, you revive the most beautiful feelings,
the most intense moments, the colors, the sounds, the scents,
almost as if you were still there. Well, it is not ‘as if’; you are still there, whenever
you bring it back to your mind. It is so incredibly true
because it is true! At least for your brain. Yes, because brain doesn’t distinguish
between reality and imagination. Let me explain it: whether
you live an experience for real, or you simply imagine it, remember it, that’s the same thing for your brain. And as a consequence,
it reacts in the same way. I’ll give you a demonstration.
look here! Kevin, did you want some lemon? Would you try some bites? Try a big bite! Big bite, big bite! What do you think? Pretty good? Do you want to try some more? No more lemon? Anything else? All right, back to something else. Anything changed in your mouth? The lemon is in the video,
but the salivation is yours. If the brain does not distinguish
between reality and imagination, and we’ve seen that’s the case, we can afford to make mistakes and learn from our mistakes
simply by simulating, thus preventing errors
from having a real impact. Many basketball players use visualization
techniques in their training: they imagine to toss and score. That is to say they are
pretending to train! But guess what? The percentage of scores,
the real ones, increases! The brain does not distinguish
between reality and imagination. And when we are playing? Think about it: playing means doing something
“picturing” to do something else. The beauty of playing is that it is
experiential, it makes people act, and it does so in a metaphorical context,
away from the real world, so that there is neither
judgment nor evaluation, but only an unfiltered expression
of our own behavior. Playing is beautifully imaginary,
and nevertheless, for the brain, real. Now, children automatically switch
from playing to learning: they enter into this magical world, and come out grown up, with new awareness. As adults we cannot,
we need a few more steps: we enter the world of playing,
we live it fully, we savor the positive
and negative feelings, either of satisfaction or frustration; and then we need to stop. To meditate, to understand what happened, look at ourself from above, that is how we can learn;
this is the meaning of learning. But there’s no point in speaking about it, telling what an experience means,
you’ve got to try it! So, let’s practice, let’s try
a practical exercise all together. I would like to create, together,
the fastest exercise in the world; we would like to create together
the fastest game of TEDx! A game that lasts 11 seconds. So I ask you kindly now to form pairs, choose the person
to your right or to your left, and form a pair; let’s play a game all together,
everybody, everybody … Select a person; if you cannot find him/her,
just search forward or backward. Mate with your partner! Thank you … everyone … let’s see
if we can turn up the lights. Have you paired off? Good, all of you, even up there? Great; now I ask you … Oh, you’re already excited,
and we haven’t started yet! I kindly ask you to take the right hand
of your new partner, in this way, and rest your elbows
on the arm of the chair. Pay attention, I ask you to do
all your best in this challenge. Now for the next 11 seconds you are asked to gain the highest possible score, where I score a point
when my partner’s hand touches the chair, and my partner scores a point
when my hand touches the chair. Please totally engage in this challenge. Are you ready? 3,2,1 … go! Commitment! Commitment! Ok, stop, thank you, the 11 seconds are over! Finished! Otherwise it won’t be
TEDx’s fastest game, folks! Stop. So, let’s see if I
can see you a little bit. Let’s try to understand what happened. How many of you scored less than 3 points? Raise your hands, so I can see you. Ooh!! How many of you scored more than 5 points? Let’s see a little bit,
more than 5 points? More than 10? Who is proud of their number, scream it loud, super loud! Wow, a herd of cows!
What happened? A number, loud! 25! How is it possible,
excuse me, to score 25? And above all, how is it
that some scored just 1 point, while others scored 25? There are two answers. One: he cheated! Which is what people usually think when someone gets
a better result than theirs! Or, he broke a pattern. He listened to the goal,
he listened to the rules, and decided to interpret
them in his favor. The goal is to get
the highest score possible. Get the highest score possible,
not beat the partner! But we cannot, we must win, beat our opponent, defeat the enemy! Which was your partner
up to 11 seconds ago but we have already forgotten it, alright? All of this happens
in our brain, automatically. Before a challenge, we think
we have to win it. If I put my hands in this way, it must mean arm wrestling, a competition. It has always been so… We live out of automatisms: we make decisions based
on our past experiences, which most of the time
is true and effective: I’ve done it, I know how it works,
I reapply the same behavior every time I find a similar situation. Biology makes us this way, it is a system used
by the brain to save energy, to achieve the same result
with less effort. A system that is almost
always effective, but not always. There are situations in which
we reapply the same behavior, even though it no longer works, even though we do not achieve
the expected results. A behavior that used to have
a meaning, but no longer does. Nevertheless it has entered our autopilot, and therefore we do not
question it anymore. Here is where we must
exit the game and stop. Stop and understand that,
damn, we were wrong. Stop and understand that, we fell in it – how fool
have we been… Fools? Who cares? It was a game, it was not real life! Thankfully! We lost, but we only pretended to loose. But we have also learned,
and trust me, we’ve learned for real. If you were to repeat the same game now, how many of you would get
a higher score than before? This proves you’ve just
learned to play better. Now if you were to find
the same game in real life, the same dynamics in a real situation, how many of you would change behavior
after seeing and doing this game? Well done, you have turned
a game into learning. An example for you of how difficult it is to change behavior
once it is inside ourselves. An experiment. A room with 12 monkeys. Inside this room there’s a stair,
and a bunch of bananas on top of that. The monkeys see the bananas
and go to take them. But on the steps there are some sensors connected to cold showers; everytime the sensors are trampled, the cold showers are activated. The monkeys go up; cold shower;
brrrr! they go back; the showers go off; try again;
showers on; go back; showers off. After 3-4 times the monkeys
decide to stay down and dry: they have learned by experience. Well done! But now, sensors are deactivated. Now the showers
can no longer be activated; consequently, the bananas are reachable. What will monkeys do? Nothing, they stay where they are. Why? Because their past experience
affects their current behavior. And there’s more: a monkey is replaced with a fresh new one; it sees bananas, it tries to take them. What do the others do? They block it! Until the new monkey gives up. The monkey gives up without even knowing why it cannot take the bananas. Again: a second monkey is changed. The second monkey sees the bananas,
goes to take them, the other monkeys stop it. All of them, including the previous one! Please note: including the first one,
who is blocking the second monkey without even knowing why. It’s as if someone came to you
and told you, you cannot do it. Why not? I don’t know! But they are just monkeys,
we humans are much smarter. One by one all the monkeys are changed, until there are 12 monkeys in the room, none of which tries to get the bananas, none of which knows
the reason why it can’t. Do you know how many monkeys
have been replaced, before there was one that said
“I want to try, even at a cost for me”? 48. 48 monkeys, before there was one
that had the courage. Now, my question for you is:
who wants to be the 48th monkey? How many of you will have
the strength, the guts, to stand up, in spite of difficulties,
in spite of other people’ resistance, and say, “I go, I want to try”? Thus, ladies and gentlemen,
as you see we learned a few things, and we did it by playing. But one thing I’d like you to bring home
from this time spent together, it is not awareness, but a question,
the most important question. When you are facing
a seemingly overwhelming hurdle, at work, in your relationship,
with yourself, before giving up on climbing the ladder,
ask yourself this simple question: What am I taking for granted? Who knows, maybe you’ll end up
being the 48th monkey. Thank you so much. (Applause)

34 comments

Questo video ci'à pochissime visualizzazioni in contrasto con la genialità di questo speech (sono un italiano cresciuto al estero, scusatemi se non mi esprimo bene o se faccio errori ortografici/grammaticali).

Fabio Tognetti grazie! Le tue parole sono stimolo di profonda riflessione e sfida! Ci chiami a "metterci in gioco", a sognare, esplorare, scoprire…senza limiti! Perché il contesto cambia e ciò che potrebbe essere sbagliato oggi, potrebbe essere un successo domani!

Fabio T. come sempre riesce a sintetizzare e cucire insieme più nozioni di grande valore con semplicità e chiarezza. Speech d'ispirazione anche per me che sono del settore!

Grande Fabio! Condivido in pieno! Purtroppo l'immaginazione e la simulazione mentale sono piuttosto sottovalutate al giorno d'oggi, in un mondo dove contano di più i risultati facili e rapidi, spesso a scapito della qualità… Ma l'importante è non arrendersi a questa tendenza e cercare di cambiare la mentalità delle persone!

Complimenti a Fabio! Ricordo con piacere il training a cui ho partecipato un paio di anni fa all'università.
Istruttive e interessanti le sperimentazioni mentali a cui ci ha sottoposto, stimolanti i temi a cui poi mi sarei appassionata.
Emotional training oggi più che mai, nelle università e nelle aziende…
Prima di rinunciare a salire le scale.. facciamoci sempre questa domanda….COSA STO DANDO PER SCONTATO?

Aspetti positivi e negativi dell'esperienza racchiusi in un unico video.
Quanta verità nelle parole dello speacker!! Quante cose stiamo dando per scontato?
Una domanda che dovremmo porci ogni giorno!! Un take it home message da non scordare. Grazie!!

E' sempre un'emozione ascoltare le parole che spendi per portarci fuori dalla nostra zona del comfort 😉 e parlo da ex academist!
Condividete quest'uomo gente!

Finalmente si gioca sul serio! Conosco e stimo Fabio da vent'anni: una persona geniale e ispiratrice, un formatore eccezionale e trascinante, e per mia grande fortuna… un grandissimo amico, autentico e straordinario! Qui è al suo primo TEDx, una pietra miliare da non perdere. Attenzione: vedere questi 12 minuti può cambiare la tua vita! Da guardare, riguardare e condividere ora con tutte le persone a cui tenete 🙂

WOW, questo talk mi ha ispirato tantissimo e sull'onda di ciò che ha detto Fabio voglio lanciare una riflessione da un angolo molto particolare: cosa stai dando per scontato nella tua relazione di coppia ?
Hai intenzione di cambiare 48 partners prima di affrontare le tue pauer o mettere in dubbio le tue convinzioni ?

Il grande Fabio Tognetti, l'unico capace di farti vivere vere esperienze di apprendimento, con grande coinvolgimento emotivo. Non c'ero ma dopo averti ascoltato e come se ci fossi stato anch'io!

Video molto interessante, fa riflettere su cose che ormai vengono date per scontato e a cui non pensiamo più. Sprona a non arrendersi davanti alle regole imposte dalla società e agli ostacoli che ci troviamo davanti ogni giorno.

Bellissima spiegazione. conoscevo già l'esperimento ma solo ora ne ho appreso il valore! Voglio essere una scimmia 😁

Io ho perso il lavoro per avere riportato un fatto vero, però mi sa che se mi fossi arruffianata la direttrice sarebbe stato meglio, perché non sempre l'amore per la cosa giusta produce vantaggi, anzi nel mondo in cui viviamo le persone non vengono valutate. Come dice un politico oggi è più importante giocare a calcetto coi capi………..essere persone valide ,persone leali non vale..

Intervento interessante e utile. Mi permetto solo una considerazione circa il video proposto all'inizio della presentazione. La salivazione che si innesca nel pubblico, indotta dalla visione del volto del bambino che ha appena addentato il limone, è semmai ascribile ai nostri neuroni specchio.

Bel discorso ed esposto bene, bravo. Lo schema comportamentale è tipico, ma l'esortazione finale un po' semplicistica, secondo me. Non tiene conto di quanto sia difficile per la "48" scrollarsi di dosso le altre scimmie che la fermano.

L'esperimento delle scimmie in effetti lo si può assimilare al modo di agire nella società.

La-eksperimento la-sximida efekte al-asimileblas agir-maneiro societena.

scusate non ho capito l'esperimento del braccio di ferro. a me sembra chiaro che si ottiene un punto ogni volta che riesci a battere l'avversario, quindi in 11 secondi, puoi ottenere, idealmente, un punteggio di 11 (uomo forzuto vs donna esile). coma mai alcuni sostengono di aver fatto più di 20 punti? non capisco…

il cervello distingue tra realtà e fantasia benissimo invece, provate ad avere un orgasmo pensando di fare sesso con la persona che vi piace di più. Quelli che non distinguono realtà da fantasia di solito o si drogano o finiscono in cura da un centro di igiene mentale.

Molto interessante.
Ma gli esperimenti come quello delle 12 scimmie, ahimé, vengono fatti solitamente con scariche elettriche, non con "romantiche" docce fredde.

Giusto per la "cronaca"!🙈🙉🙊

Il mio commento per precisare che l'esperimento delle 48 scimmie non è mai avvenuto. E' una bufala che gira in rete, quindi non ha nessun fondamento scientifico. In genere si ferma a 5 scimmie, a volte 10. La versione di Tognetti le porta addirittura a 48.

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